Data: 2010-01-15 10:25:55 | |
Autor: Koos Nolst Trenite | |
Amazing: Scientologists actually CONFUSING Jesus Christ with Satan (incl. definition of Jesus Christ, definition of Satan) - {HRI 20100106-II-V3.0} | |
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(Om du vill översätta denna, vänligen kontakta mig) SW (Jeśli chcesz przetłumaczyć tego, prosimy o kontakt do mnie) PL (Se ti piace tradurre questo, vi prego di contattarmi) IT (Si quieres traducir esto, por favor póngase en contacto conmigo) ES Amazing: Scientologists* actually CONFUSING Jesus Christ with Satan (incl. definition of Jesus Christ, definition of Satan) {HRI 20100106-II-V4.0} (Version 4.0 on 15 Jan 2010) (suits foreign language readers) ' Summary: They are promised Christ-like abilities, and then are taught, they MUST BE spiritual slaves forever to l. ron hubbard (Satan), "in order to achieve those abilities," and then they are gradually made to lose all spiritual abilities (that they may have had, and which they wanted to understand and to stabilize or increase in the first place), but indeed, they never get any Christ-like abilities at all, also because even faintly having such, would un-mask l. ron hubbard (Satan) himself. ' ' Talking about people who have everything in reverse! You know the expression - you think "you have seen it all," and then this comes up. Actually it had been staring me in the face for thirty years, ever since I had read Hubbard's 'Scientology' claims, and his slogan of "Abandon your difficult search - the answers have been found," and of 'Scientology' "delivering the ability to be cause over matter and Life." I sat in their course room, being duly overpowered with the idea, that Hubbard enforced on 'wogs,' on "Non-Scientologists," that "I knew nothing about Life," and that "Hubbard knew everything, and knew things that nobody else knew or had found out." There was a 'Scientology' "chart of Awareness," and near the top, in those days, it said something of "Cause over Life Forms and Matter," or such, "achieved as a result of 'doing Upper Levels'." There was a bit of cigaret ash lying on the floor. I went out, at one time, to the toilet or such, and when I returned, the piece of ash was gone: CAUSE OVER MATTER! There was someone in the room, who had done the first "Upper Level." And therefore I was thinking like that, or at least strongly wondering if it was, that that 'Scientologist' was being "Cause over Matter," that had happened. ' ' But 'Scientologists' were not the ones to correct me, not at all, that in fact their claims were paper claims, that DO appeal to those who are more aware, and to suck these in, and so to control and subdue the more able, and to obtain their Life Energy for Hubbard (Satan) to absorb and to direct as he pleases. I had to figure that out by myself, by collecting and integrating observations and data - an activity which was actually obstructed by the 'Scientologists,' who, mostly, are very vain about "abilities" claimed but which they do not actually have, at all, despite their terminology that SUGGESTS differently. It is part of the manipulative nature of Hubbard, that pervades all of them. And I had MAJOR sociopaths in my family, which 'Scientology,' in all those years of counseling, NEVER detected!! Once again, I had to do all that work myself, DESPITE the "help" I bought from them to increase my awareness and that of family members. These sociopaths were (and are) all connected spiritually, and very firmly at that, to Hubbard, to Satan himself, you see. So you can't expect 'Scientology' to remedy that! ' ' The overpowering with false ideas was not difficult - there was my vacuum of awareness of myself and of Life - I was born this life, as most of you have been too, as an 'Alzheimer baby:' (if you pardon the expression, I find it quite fitting, also because nobody, including the patients, understand Alzheimer's at all, they only know some of the symptoms) Knowing not, having no awareness of where I was, knowing not who I was, not who my friends were nor who my enemies were, nor where these were now - when I was born, and long since, I had no conscious Awareness anymore, of all that, what had happened and what was lying only three years back, when my life preceding had ended in quite an unpleasant manner (so much so, that I refused to talk German, for a long time). Medical "science" is so intensely Insane and Destructive of Life... ' I had been made as stupid as you can be, or more precisely: I had been bereft of all Life Energy for connecting to my memories and to my abilities. And connection IS Awareness, and connection Energy forges access to abilities, and to memories. The person who took those vital Energies of mine away from me, will not be a happy person, I can assure you. ' ' You probably also know almost nothing about Jesus Christ, and of that, of what you learned and what he HIMSELF taught you via his disciples, at least half of what he says, about himself and about others, is wrong, is HIS lies, and is NOT AT ALL "wrongly relayed or omitted in the course of history." *(1) The same applies to your "knowledge" of Satan, of which you know almost nothing, I assume. *(2) ' Yet you do have some feeling knowledge - truth being absolute, and defined as that what has happened, which, if you like it or not, is indelibly available to your senses, no matter how distant in the past it has occurred, and regardless of the layers of camouflage and lies covering it. Also when I was born, I still had some feeling knowledge, though my parents took extraordinary care to suppress or deny and oppose also my feeling for Life, my sensing of people, and of them, as they are, and of myself, as I am - opposed to me and others sensing my indeed very great abilities, and my vast knowledge, that I was born with - faint glimpses I sometimes felt, or more so, OTHERS of some awareness DID feel, quite more so, than I myself, when they were near me, but I had also no education whatsoever to understand or deal with their reactions, their desire to be understood by me, their Love for me, their awe, their enormous yet unvoiced, caring and loving expectations of me, that I felt at times. ' Again: You do have some feeling knowledge - truth being absolute, and defined as that what has happened - which is indelibly available to your senses, no matter how distant in the past it occurred, and regardless of the layers of camouflage and lies covering it. *(3) (It does NOT erase, as Satan (Hubbard) claims, but, what happened can be pushed away, for instance blanketed by Unconsciousness, or Perception Energy can be sucked away from you, and then it SEEMS "gone" or "erased from your memory" - but things do not disappear, and also not "with the passage of time." *(3)) ' ' ' I will summarize the sense of truth, that you probably do have, as follows, about Jesus Christ: Jesus Christ can create - more precisely, can create copies of - life forms, like animal bodies or human bodies, including his own, as in 'resurrection,' and hardly less famously, creating the resurrection of a person called Lazarus, and also including the re-creation of parts of bodies, as those parts damaged by leprosy. *(1) And he can create objects - of which creating bread has become a well-known story. {definition} He used those abilities erratically, in rather irrational and sometimes secretive ways, for reasons that do not have to be mentioned here. He confirmed all those things at a later time, which did con- siderably increase - at least my - understanding of him. *(1) His abilities are so much beyond what our society is based on, that it would be, and indeed was, an ordeal for Jesus Christ to have been put here on Earth, "in order to be punished, and to suffer, and so to purify himself" - so he was made to believe - and that was done twice to him, as far as I know. *(1) Ordeals which he neither understood, or wanted to have understood by others, the first time, nor the second time, two thousand years later. *(1) OF COURSE YOU DO NOT REMEDY ANYTHING, that you did wrong - or that your superior does wrong for which you are blamed - BY SUFFERING, BY CONSTRUCTIVE ACTIVITY IN REAL LIFE, IT IS REMEDIED. *(n) [Milarepa] Jesus Christ, however, was demanded to suffer, on Earth, to NOT detect and name and oppose, and NOT to stop sociopaths, Criminal Minds and their Evil, but instead, 'to suffer' at their hands, not even to protect others from Evil, and now people imitate that, they want to ALSO 'suffer,' "for their sins," or they want others 'to suffer for sins,' a dwindling spiral of Evil and destruction of life, or people tried to "explain" the lies of Jesus Christ by which he was hiding this matter. That resulted in a vast amount of confusion and Insanity, for two thousand years, which I am of course not happy about, and which my curious and very Loving mind thus started to unravel. *(1) So he, Christ, used his abilities erratically, in rather irrational, and sometimes secretive ways as for instance in his resurrection. *(1) ' And it does NOT mean at all, that you or I or Christians in general, can or will obtain those abilities, even when Jesus Christ claims, that we will - IF we only believe his lies about our life on Earth and about his own life on Earth, *(1) and when we say his utterly Insane and malicious, but very famous prayer 'Father in Heaven...', which CONTRADICTS AND DENIES the very definition of God itself - so much Jesus Christ had to hide, and did hide. ' Even at his return two thousand years later, he still refused to clear his lies up, though he wrote a book about it, called 'The Life of Jesus Christ' or such, by Dr. Dahesh (Mr. Miracle in Arab language), *(1) but he did not repeat the lie anymore, about "His Father in Heaven," and he now used the correct definition of God,*(4) calling it 'Spirit,' but again wrongly claiming, that "we all can perform such miracles as he can."*(1) He had and has - much like a psychic - NO UNDERSTANDING of how it works, but which you, and any psychic too, can find in Fine Particle Physics {FPP}. *(n) ' ' ' And, on the opposite side, we can say the following about Satan: Of course I am intensely interested in the SOURCE of EVIL, which indeed I found - not to be "an Engram," that Satan (i.e. l. ron hubbard) claimed to be "the single source of Man's suffering and aberration" - but I rather found it in a person who desired to go against and OPPOSE The Creation itself, and who found methods to express his free will as himself: (Satan) DESIRING and ENJOYING to bring about Blindness, and Ugliness, Unconsciousness and Hate, and Destruction of Life, and all the suffering and lying that goes with it, (Satan) ENJOYING TO INFLICT THAT, and finding more and more methods to do so more and more unhindered and more and more irreparably to more and more people. {definition} ' After long and intense investigation, all of which I published and which is available to you, it appeared that I have again located that person, whom you actually do sense to be Satan, and who is around on Earth since quite long and was last incarnate as l. ron hubbard. *(2) So, let's say, that the date of the HUMAN RIGHTS ORDER on Satan, which is 17 October 2008, *(2) is one of the mile stones on the road to finally conquering Evil, on Earth and wherever else you may sense or feel or remember Evil to exist. *(n) [KYRE] After all, in order to vanquish something, you do have to identify and understand it, to some workable degree. ' What can Satan do, and how does he work? Also that I have to tell you, which you could however summarize or distill from all the data that is publicly available to you, not only from me, and which I have mentioned at various occasions. ' Actual Science lies in BROADENING your scope of vision, but current "science" is so heavily dominated by Criminal Minds, *(n) that 'ONLY if you discard NINETY PERCENT of relevant and known and vital data,' are you allowed to call it "science," and may you post it in Wikipedia WITHOUT it being called "unverified," or "not proven" or "contested" or "tests inconclusive," by the prevalent Criminal Minds (and by known sociopaths like James Randi). *(n) [Hawking] (Criminal Minds have everything in reverse.) ' Satan can Alter Life Energies to become the Harmful Energies mentioned, *(3) and he projects these onto others, to destroy your joy of life, and your ability to enjoy Life, and he - and the sociopaths he "created," the people whose soul he mutilated to become sociopaths or Criminal Minds - (these) inflict all kind of compulsions and distortions, and they inflict outright terror on others, including all the ills you may have encount- ered, in Man, on Earth. *(2) He devised methods to make others cut off from feeling The Creation - separated from feeling the Source Energy of Life, too - to the extent even, that others could be made irreparably filled with Hate, who can thus only enjoy "life" along the line of Satan, with "philosophies" like "Ugliness and Beauty are just a matter of consideration," and "the whole purpose of life, is the creation of an effect." *(n) Which are - you guessed it - the most basic (and public) tenets of Hubbard's 'Scientology.' {definition} ' ' ' I have written a definition of Intelligence, *(n) and a Definition of Science, *(n) because I used these - ACTUAL Intelligence and ACTUAL Science - which anyone has to use for being able to reach for and to integrate and to extrapolate the relevant and necessary data, in order to arrive at the solution of such fundamental and most vital problems as finding the actual sources of Evil, that makes people suffer and that lands them in hospitals, and the like, while you are still busy 'playing in the sandbox' - the sandboxes you call Universities: University, that was really 'playing in the sandbox' for me... day after day I got more and more amazed at all the things we did NOT learn, and all the things we FALSELY learned. Back to the subject title: ' ' ' Now what does that all - Jesus Christ versus Satan - have to do with 'Scientology?' Satan, 'Scientology,' l. ron hubbard, TALKS ABOUT the ability to create Life forms and matter. He calls it 'Cause over Life,' and 'Cause over Matter,' (and he throws in Space and Time and Energy, to make it look more like physics, but he can not or at least does not at all define any of these things, in 'Scientology,' because his main goal is, to keep his followers Stupid, Confused and Blind enough to follow him and give him their Admiration and other Life Energies). He mentions 'Cause over Life,' and 'Cause over Matter,' which ability he likes his followers to believe, that he provides to them, through courses, IF THEY EXACTLY DO AND THINK AS HE COMMANDS THEM to think and act, also in social life following his orders, his ideas and feelings in order to subjugate, or calling it, to deceive and motivate his followers, "to 'Clear'" Earth. Once again, Criminal Minds have all in reverse: They are made to believe, that "they are 'Clearing Earth from Evil Impulses'," WHILE they force the Evil Impulses of Satan (of l. ron hubbard, through 'Scientology') onto Earth. ' ' By implication of claiming to provide 'Cause over Life,' and 'Cause over Matter' - Hubbard (Satan) suggests, and many of his followers or 'Scientologists'(*) indeed believe, that "HE MUST HAVE THAT ABILITY HIMSELF, if he claims to deliver the method to achieve it." Such an assumption by his followers, is no more than logical, of course, isn't it: Something DOES exist - Cause over Life Forms and over Matter do exist as spiritual abilities - and he attaches the lie, that "HE does deliver that ability to you," ("on condition that you become his eternal slave, and enslave others to him, etc. ") and he does deliver some tricks, like pushing you (your soul, you) outside of your head for a short while, and making you look from there, as yourself, at your environment, which you probably will do too, when you die, outside the Black, Harmfully Altered Life Energies that confine (limit) your visual perception to what comes in as photons your eyes, and that confine (limit) your hearing to that what comes in as vibrating air, through your ears. *(3) {definition} 'Cause over Life Forms and over Matter' exists, and he claims he delivers it, so, it is "logical to assume," that "he himself then does also HAVE those abilities." ' ' On the other hand, we have Jesus Christ who can ACTUALLY do such things that are 'Cause over Life and over Matter' *(1) but which he does appallingly little of, no matter how much he is asked to. And he appears not to know himself much about HOW he does it, or how it works, but he just can do it. *(1) And at that by far, very far, surpassing anyone else - nobody that I know or heard of, has such abilities of being Cause over Life Forms and over Matter, and of knowing the (most likely) future, etc.. And he has basically a good nature, limited by his, well, ah Christian beliefs, his stories about his Father in Heaven, to cover up his lies - that he gave, as relayed by his disciples, and that are still a fruitful source of inspiration for many a fight between people, for most debilitating and destructive ideas, since two thousand years, now. ' ' On the one hand, we have Satan PRETENDING to be "Cause over Life Forms and Matter," liking his followers to ASSUME that, which "cause" he, Satan, l. ron hubbard, also gives the illusion of, by distorting your perception and feelings, *((3) by what you know as hypnotism: "if you 'postulate' and create the vision, the illusion of a chair, in an empty room, then 'it will appear'" - 'AS IF,' we would say 'it will appear AS IF it is there,' like in hypnosis; but Satan, l ron hubbard, "created the Universe together with others, in that way" - so he likes to convince not only himself, but also to teach his followers, called 'Scientologists' by him. And here he touches common ground with the basic Insanities that can be found in Hinduism too, there, where Hinduism confuses hypnotism or Maya, with real life. *(7) He creates the illusion, the Energy, that make the senses, that make your soul "see a chair," and then he makes others agree to also create that visual Energy, that hypnotic Energy, to "also see a chair," and "THAT's how The Universe has been created" - according to Satan (l. ron hubbard, in 'Scientology'), that is. ' So, I had Scientologist Nancy Many (say 'Mainy') - at that time she was still married to Bill Foster, Nancy Foster - (she was) going on about her seeing Scientologists who were "uncreating and creating their body," to go past a ticket checkpoint at a Stadium or such, rather than her admitting the existence of Unconsciousness Energy *(3) that BLACKED OUT HER PERCEPTION for a moment. And talking about coins being created out of thin air, or such, if I remember correctly - anyhow, this was Nancy, who was then already given to a perverse PRIDE in being somewhat psychotic, talking with great, wide-eyed, and sickly enthusiasm "about 'Scientology'," and "how all that was 'confidential'," which was her "solution" to not having to face Hubbard (Satan, l. ron hubbard). Then there was Allen Wright, who also had been with Hubbard - and no less hypnotized in order not to have to perceive Satan - Allen strictly believed, so he told me, that when he saw one end of a big mooring cable stretched taut and "ending in midair" - seemingly without any support - above and almost parallel to the water surface at Hubbard's 'Scientology' ship, that, to 'Scientologist' Allen (or Allan Wright) "was proof of Hubbard being Cause over Matter..." Hubbard (Satan) disincarnate, can not even lift a piece of paper (as I confirmed by my research, and which I think is important to know), but he can and does create and project very sickening, and for some deadly, or suicidal, or depressing Harmfully Altered Life Energy Particles, plus hypnotic afflictions, compulsion Energies, and intense Pains and, very manipulative ideas and feelings. *(8) Medical "science" is so intensely Insane and Destructive of Life... (Back to the story of the 'Scientologist' seeing the cable "float" in the air from the ship to shore.) Anyone who HAS sailed on a big ship, knows the use of a catch line, that is thrown from shore to ship, and to which a sailor on the ship attaches the big mooring cable, which is of course much too heavy to throw ashore. But our 'Scientologist,' Allan (or Alan) Wright, WANTS to see "the abilities of Hubbard (Satan) being Cause over Matter," so he does NOT see the thin catch line, but only the big rope "hanging in the air." Many 'Scientologists' are convinced, that "Hubbard (Satan) is Cause over Matter and Life Forms," simply because he says so. (I don't know of any stories, though, of 'Scientologists' who claimed "seeing him create a chicken or an egg, or any Life Form.") ' ' Now Jesus Christ IS actually capable of doing these things, which are of course not really fitting to do, on Earth, in a society that is working along the lines of people not being able to do so, at all. *(1) Imagine, someone creating lottery tickets that will win, or someone creating a newspaper which ACCURATELY gives tomorrow's news, an "Early Edition." That upsets this society to a considerable extent. And Jesus Christ using his abilities to stop the torture and murdering of millions of people, which he easily could have done, doing THAT, however, that did not convene HIS quite strange, and supposedly "Christian" belief system, but it is more like Hinduism, and indeed he writes, two thousand after his Christ life time, as 'Dr. Miracle' (Dr. Dahesh), that he admires Gandhi, who suffered severely from the same lack of compassion for Life and for Mankind. *(1)(7) ' ' His, is not MY Christian belief system, and I know, that it also does not fit the belief systems of most Christians, actually - which is interesting from a sociological viewpoint, and which is the reason why he, Jesus Christ, did not get accepted, when he returned to Earth a second time, as Dr. Dahesh or 'Dr. Miracle': *(1) Jesus Christ does not in any way fit the expectations on Earth, that have grown and grown and grown, culturally, over the past two millennia, *(1) and to which I have contributed considerably, at various life times. The way Jesus Christ represented himself on Earth, two thousand years ago, have not contributed to understanding him - nor was it his desire, TO BE understood - that many unforgivable lies, he surrounded his stay on Earth with, also towards his very unfortunate disciples. *(1)(6) You will have to admit, that there is not a whole lot of Love going on, there, from Jesus Christ towards those disciples, or towards people there in Palestine, nor does he provide much truth about himself, and rather the contrary. *(1) So I now finally have gotten the opportunity, of unraveling the matter, and found out enough to work with, and to return my own viewpoint on him, after many life times of being a faithful and very productive Christian: You might say, that I am now again what I was in the first place - a source of Christian values, as described also in HRI 'Defining God Correctly,' *(4) values which I attempted to implement again almost four millennia ago. *(4) ' ' ' Certainly, because Jesus Christ is very much connected to The SOURCE ENERGY of Life, (which is the CORRECT definition of 'God'), he acts - for those who want to and who can create the Energy to connect - (he acts) as a gateway to connect back to that Source Energy, (called 'Soli Deo Gloria' by Bach and Handel, and 'God' by Akhenaton) - a connection that is part of the nature of your soul, and which thus makes you feel more of who you are, again, and of your ability to be who you are, and to feel what you can do, the root of the word 'religion,' re-ligare in Latin, indeed means 'to connect you back,' a start of returning much of your feeling of Life, starting again to feel people you love far more intensely than you can currently imagine. ' And doing that, I would say, is part of your Human Right - formulated for you into practical form, by me, in 'The First Correct Human Rights Declaration: ARTICLE ONE.' *(5) ' Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity' human rights philosopher and poet 'Men of all nations came to listen to Solomon's wisdom, sent by all the kings of the world, who had heard of his wisdom.' 1 Kings 4:34 _________ Footnotes: (*) 'The CORRECT Definition of 'Scientologist' - (plus history and some Fine Particle Physics, and scolding your Stupidity)' {HRI note 20091105-V1.3} (archived 20100101 by groups.google) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/404f416cfcf9817d (1) 'Facing Life: Jesus Christ Never Was A Leader, And Never Will Be - Nor Does He Want To Be One' (JCNL) {HRI 20081005-V2.4} (5 October 2008 - Version 2.4 on 10 Oct 2008) http://groups.google.com/group/Koos-Nolst-Trenite/msg/2834903ca9a96c70 (2) 'Human Rights Order on Satan, last incarnation l. ron hubbard' (incl. Definitions of 'Karma,' of 'Truth,' and of 'Punishment') {HRO 20081017-V2.5} (17 October 2008 - Version 2.5 on 22 Dec 2009) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/4b691b97c821da7d http://groups.google.com/group/alt.philosophy/msg/08815021fc500b06 (3) 'Definition of Perception and Feeling Increase' {HRI 20091203-V3.1} {FPP 20091203-V3.1} (3 December 2009 - Version 3.0 on 21 Dec 2009) http://groups.google.com/group/be.politics/msg/a13f29c9d5b6e3c6 (4) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is Monotheism' (DGC) {HRI 20080406-V4.9.1} (6 April 2008 - Version 4.9.1 on 12 Jan 2009) http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/c501bff35c6e8af4 (5) 'First Correct Human Rights Declaration - ARTICLE ONE and Preamble' {HRD-01 20091223-V1.1} (23 December 2009 - Version 1.1 on 25 Dec 2009) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d4670b441b9bbf91 (6) ' 'Heaven' and 'The Last Supper,' Charlemagne and Leonardo da Vinci - Europe' (Quote One from {HRI 20080406-V3.0} ) {HRI 20080406-V3.0-q1-V2.0} (15 April 2008 - Version 2.0 on 23 Apr 2008) http://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/msg/47389cac211e829d (7) 'Koos Nolst Trenite far SENIOR to Buddhism or Hindu knowledge' - with quotes from {HRI 20040619-V4.1} 'Explaining the Scale of Sanity' (11 October 2007 - publication date quotes from HRI 20040619) http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/741f010b18c8e25d (8) 'Dismantling Criminal Minds - Fine Particle Physics Major Discoveries' ('How to become free of evil people') (DCM) {FPP 20070331-V2.7} {HRI 20070331-V2.7} (31 March 2007 - V2.7 on 30 Apr 2007) http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/c119dfc9bd620170 '(rev 2.0) How to get rid of l. ron hubbard and 'Scientology' - {HRI 20070331-V2.0} ... Major Discoveries' http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/b63fec3c5fd108af (n) (to be added, as indicated) ' __________ References: (to be added as aplicable) ' ____________ Verification: http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld Copyright 2010 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher and poet This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it) who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included, to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and about themselves). None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate, and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves, about any organizations or individuals. Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to: PlatoWorld at Lycos.com |
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Autor: Plato Been | |
(is V4.0 actually) - Amazing: Scientologists actually CONFUSING Jesus Christ with Satan (incl. definition of Jesus Christ, definition of Satan) - {HRI 20100106-II-V3.0} | |
Subject title should have read 'V4.0'
On Jan 15, 10:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite <AmbassadorForMankind@hotmail.com> wrote:
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