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Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - totalna kapitulacja LWP

Data: 2014-02-17 13:16:48
Autor: Jacek Biały
Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - totalna kapitulacja LWP
http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/117115
Spotkanie w sztabie UW podczas ćwiczeń 'Sojuz 81'
Legnica - kwiecień 1981:
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Following the 9th Plenum, however, Comrade Kania took the position that they
could not rely on the army and the security organs, and was not certain whether
they would uphold the party and state leadership in a critical situation.
Comrade Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulikov tried to dissuade Comrade Kania from
this view, showing him positive examples of the Polish army, and underlined that
Soviet comrades were of the opinion that the army and security organs were
prepared to end the counterrevolution at the order of the party and government
leadership.  Comrade Kania did not share this opinion.
That had generally negative consequences.  The very next day Comrade Jaruzelski
also defended this view that the army and security forces were not prepared for
internal deployment, and that one could not rely fully upon them.  This position
of Comrades Kania and Jaruzelski is their own invention. Comrade Kulikov said to
Comrade Jaruzelski "You have now broken off the branch upon which you sit.  How
will things go for you now?"
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Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulikov finally stressed once again that the common
goal should be to solve the problems without the deployment of allied armies
into Poland.  All socialist states should exert their influence to this end.
The Soviet comrades assume that unless the Polish security organs and army would
be deployed, outside support cannot be expected, for otherwise considerable
international complications would result.  Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulikov
emphatically brought it to the attention of the Polish comrades that they have
to try first to solve their problems by themselves.  If they cannot do so alone
and then ask for help, the situation is different from one in which troops had
been deployed from the outset.
As far as a possible deployment of the NVA is concerned, there are no longer
reservations among the Polish comrades.  There were increasing public musings as
to how long the Soviet staffs and troops would remain in Poland.
If the Polish comrades were prepared to solve their problems on their own, the
Soviet leadership organs and troops could be withdrawn.  Except for empty words,
however, nothing concrete has been done.  Presently the counterrevolutionary
forces are regrouping.
He does not know how much longer Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulikov and parts
of the staff of the Allied Military Forces as well as the other organs of the
Soviet Union will remain in Poland.  For now, an order to withdraw will not be
given, since one should not relinquish the seized positions.
According to the wishes of Comrade Kania and Comrade Jaruzelski , the exercise
"SOYUZ-81" should not be officially terminated on 7 April 1981, but rather
continue for another few days or weeks.  The Soviet comrades, however, took the
point of view that this was not possible and would create international
complications. It only proves that the Poles think that others should do their
work for them.
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Tłumaczenie ostatniego zdania: To tylko dowodzi, że Polacy myślą, że to inni
powinni wykonać ich pracę za nich.

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Ponadto ciekawe uwagi na temat polskich towarzyszy:
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Among the leading cadres of the army, the following things are currently
notable:
The chief of the General Staff, General Siwicki, makes a helpless impression in
decisive matters, and waits for orders from above.
He's always winding himself in circles.  He was at first proactive, but is
increasingly showing an attitude of surrender.
General Melczyk, seen as a positive force, is always kept in the background by
the Polish comrades.
The chief of the Head Political Administration, Division General Baryla is a
loyal comrade, but does nothing, and hides behind the orders of Minister
Jaruzelski .
The  chiefs of the military districts SILESIA and POMORZE, Division General
Rapacewicz and Division General Uzycki follow in the wake of Minister
Jaruzelski.
The most progressive soldier at this point is the chief of the Warsaw Military
District, Division General Oliwa.
The chief of the Navy, Admiral Janczyszyn, first was in favor of "Solidarity",
suddenly, however, is taking a different standpoint.  This is not seen as
honest.  The leadership of the security organs confronts sizeable difficulties,
since it receives no support from party and state leadership.
Within the rank and file, occurrences of resignation and capitulation are
spreading in the face of difficulties.
The reported situation notwithstanding, the Soviet comrades are of the view that
we should continue to support Comrade Kania and Comrade Jaruzelski , for there
are no other alternatives at this point.
Comrades Grabski and Kiesiel are currently the most progressive forces within
the Polish leadership.  They do not, however, succeed with their demands.
Comrade Barcikowski who is the Second Secretary within the Central Committee of
the PUWP, is a comrade without a particular profile.  His statements and his
overall appearance during the 9th Plenum of the Central Committee of the PUWP
prove this.
Comrade Olszowski also does not live up to expectations.
Comrade Pinkowski, the second-in-command to Comrade Jaruzelski, should be
released from his duties, but remains in office.
Central Committee member and Minister of the Interior, Comrade Milewski, who
possesses a clear position on all questions, and is prepared to shoulder
responsibility, impressed Comrade Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulikov in a
positive way.
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Całość:
http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/117115

Data: 2014-02-17 14:00:13
Autor: Trybun
Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - totalna kapitulacja LWP
W dniu 2014-02-17 13:16, Jacek Biały pisze:

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To na pewno, do wprowadzenia Stanu Wojennego zmusiła Generała zwykła przyzwoitość. Troska i odpowiedzialność za Państwo i mieszkających w nim ludzi.

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Data: 2014-02-17 16:04:04
Autor: boukun
Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - totalna kapitulacja LWP
Użytkownik "Trybun" <Ylih@yachu.com> napisał w wiadomości news:ldt1cn$8bc$1node1.news.atman.pl...
W dniu 2014-02-17 13:16, Jacek Biały pisze:
To na pewno, do wprowadzenia Stanu Wojennego zmusiła Generała zwykła przyzwoitość. Troska i odpowiedzialność za Państwo i mieszkających w nim ludzi.

Tak się bandzior troszczył, że napadł w nocy na Polaków i splądrował i ograbił ten kraj... i sprzedał na pniu... A cóż innego może zrobić generał... Troska o SBeckie rządy i ich resortowe dzieci...

boukun

Data: 2014-02-17 17:49:24
Autor: Jacek Biały
Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - totalna kapitulacja LWP

Użytkownik "Trybun" <Ylih@yachu.com> napisał w wiadomości

Ty znasz angielski Andrzeju?
http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/117115

Data: 2014-02-18 02:35:20
Autor: stevep
Jaruzelski nie chcia? stanu wojennego - to talna kapitulacja LWP
W dniu .02.2014 o 17:49 "Jacek Biały  <"jacekbialy.0[WYTNIJ]"@o2.pl> pisze:


Użytkownik "Trybun" <Ylih@yachu.com> napisał w wiadomości

Ty znasz angielski Andrzeju?
http://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/117115

To to taki oszukany Jacek? Zreszą jak wszyscy w PiS-e, podszywający się  kundle itp.
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